Correlations Podcast

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Matthew Stelzner and Jessica DiRuzza talk about the current outer planetary alignment of Saturn and Pluto in conjunction from 2018-2021. The significance of this time period is felt by so many as we come to the final years of the Uranus-Pluto square from 2007-2020. Saturn and Pluto are making their first conjunction since 1981-84. On this episode of Correlations, we dialogue about the wide range of experiences one may have during this powerful alignment and offer alternative perspectives and thought forms on how to live with these energies in an empowering way.


In this episode, under the large Pisces Stellium, ​Matthew Stelzner and Jessica DiRuzza enter into a healing reverie state. Playing with the present archetypal energies and one another, a space is opened for an adventure in consciousness. Discussion of synastry and the necessity and magic of this form of correspondence is opened up.

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Matthew Stelzner is joined again by Delia Shargel and Jessica Garfield-Kabarra as we discuss Delia’s article “Psychological and Astrological Complexes: An Evolving Perspective,” published in the latest issue of Archai, the Journal of Archetypal Cosmology. We explore what complexes are and how they function psychologically, and give examples of we can use the natal chart to work with them psychospiritually—and talk about how this process could be a way of “feminizing” the Saturn archetype.

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Matthew Stelzner is joined by Jessica Garfield-Kabbara and Delia Shargel as we discuss Jessica’s article “Re-Visioning Saturn,” in the latest issue of Archai, the Journal of Archetypal Cosmology. We have a lively discussion about becoming conscious of the patriarchal roots of our Western traditions, including archetypal astrology, and the process of maturing our understanding of the archetype of Saturn using the concept of the “static” and “dynamic” Masculine and Feminine.
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